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Wed Oct 21, 2015, 6:38 PM by 4thofficial:icon4thofficial:
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Beta testers - We're excited to give you a heads up on some upcoming features. One of them will feature a new header and navigation design and this journal explains the rational behind it. If you’ve been following our timeline you might have seen a familiar thread in some of our journals. We've discussed new ideas about the organization and navigation design of the site. For reference: Beginnings of Site Simplification, Cleaning-up Site Naming, Profiles Discussion, Support the Community, New Watch Discussion, and Notifications Discussion.

Your feedback in these journals has been very helpful (thank you). We've learned a lot: For example: Having a notification dropdown menu is useful but you still want easy access directly to those those sections. Another example is to make important sections like Daily Deviations easier to find.

Whether you’ve realized it or not, your comments and feedback has helped us understand how you would like to navigate the site, and this journal presents some of our final ideas for the global navigation of the site. 

THE BIG PICTURE



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WATCH & EXPLORE


One of our primary goals for the new organization is to make it easier to understand how DeviantArt works. We know that for some new deviants, it's not always easy to know how the site and community work. So we asked ourselves a simple question:  

Q: How does DeviantArt work? 
A: Explore and contribute to the world's largest art community and discover a broad range of art and artists. Watch the artists you'd like to stay up-to-date with. Receive updates and opportunities to support their work. As an artist, you can submit and create a gallery of your art, and build an audience of fans and supporters.

Watch and Explore are the primary activities on DeviantArt.

WATCH
You might have seen our recent journal about our new Watch ideas? We discussed new navigation ideas to manage the updates from the people you watch: Deviations (Their art and Literature), Posts (Their Journals, Status updates and Polls), Community (How you can support them) and Shop (Commerce opportunities). 

Watch Nav Wires by 4thofficial

EXPLORE
Explore contains many of the content sections currently in browse. We plan on adding a few new ones over the coming months: Contests Making it easier to participate in a contest), Trending Tags (Capturing global day-to-day activity), and Categories (Making it easier to find the specific category of art you like). 

Explore Nav Wires by 4thofficial


NAV BAR DESIGN


COLOR
We're using a dark header with this new design. It will appear on every page of the site and needs to be consistent with how it works and looks. It will sit on top (literally) of many different styles of page across the site, and there are many different kinds of pages: For example: Our profile journal presented the addition of a canvas art header, and the possible option of selecting a unique color for the page background. If we move ahead with those ideas we want to make sure that when someone visits your profile they still know how to navigate DeviantArt. 

Screen Shot 2015-10-20 at 5.45.24 PM by 4thofficial



ICONS
Below is the submit menu and you'll notice the icons. Since the launch of our new brand we've started to look at the role of icons in our designs. If you use our apps you'll see icons for the navigation menu and that's given us a few new ideas for the site. Some are more playfull than others, the intent is to give each section a distinctive identity.


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Beta Testers, we're excited to give you a heads up on some upcoming changes to the site -- one of which will include a new header and navigation design.  In this journal, we'd like to kick off a discussion about what's to come.  Join us! 
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0chen Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I noticed that there isn't an easy access to the journal on the profile menu.
Also whenever I view deviations, the previous, all, and next buttons are not there at the top.
And it seems that there is no easy access to see whether your friends are online or not, please also add this one.
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Animaid101 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2015
Sorry to bother you in the comment's section, but I reallly have a grave technical problem which even hinders me to get into contact with the help desk. Could you be so kind and pass it on to the people responsible? Thank you.

I can't get into my sta.sh over "Submit>Sta.sh". Everytime I try, there's just an empty window showing up with a text saying: "Unable to login, please try again in a few minutes."
I tried it the whole day, but it just didn't work. I could submit something though by "Submit Art>choose from sta.sh". But all the explanatory text I already had provided yesterday mysteriously disappeared when posted, though it was shown before I submitted it.
Plus, my story was faved, but the fave didn't show up in my notification as it's supposed to be.

I've already emptied my cache and also deleted all the cookies, but it didn't change a thing. And when I tried earlier to contact the helpdesk, there was a page showing up next, saying: "OOPS The server encountered an internal error. Please consult our help library if you need further assistance."
What's the point of going there? There are just faq's which don't suit for my problem. No other way shown to get in contact with you. That's no good service. You just leave me alone with my problem this way.

Please help me to fix all these problems. I'm really concerned now what may come next.

Thank you!
Animaid101
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juandfuca Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2015
Why do you make it so damn difficult to find /navigate to one's own work. I have attempted to show friends my Deviant Art page to no avail and this is frustrating to the extreme.
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Tsukiiyo Featured By Owner Edited Nov 18, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Before saying anything, I'd like to tell you how I love the new interface. I hope you will improve it, uniform it.

1. What's missing ?
For me, you should add :
- a view of our points when we put the cursor on "shop" ;
- For notifications, you should add something to answer the messages quickly, without go to a link to answer. You should add a button "answer quickly" and when we clic on it, a testbox appear with a button "post". I hope to be clear, because wih your new interface, it will be useful.

2. The Menu Modal
I think it's all right.

3. The profile Menu
The same here, perfect.

4.Question
- Will you change the design of every page, like the homepage ? I hope so. When I go now to my notifications' page, I am disappointed by the old design.

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Peanut-Budow Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2015  Student General Artist
The new design is a bit bulky to be in fact!


But it annoys me when you scroll down on your profile and the bar just sticks there on the top -.- not moving at all



Slighter less bulkier design and maybe better scrolling perspective would do!~
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SP-Nova Featured By Owner Edited Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One thing I wanted to mention is that currently there's no direct way to access my gallery from my notifications.  At least, not an easy-to-use method.  I click on my avatar, then the gallery tab, and takes a bit of time sometimes and also I'm a bit prone to forget where I was going after the first click.. orz it would be really nice if there was a way to immediately access your journal, polls, gallery, or favorites from the notifications page.

The header is good, but I still fail to see how the Daily Deviations will be easy to access and look at, they still appear somewhat off the focal point...even moreso in the presentation than they are right now.  If they were a direct button on that toolbar (or at least offered as such) or even appearing as a clickable temporary header when you come online to dA on a new day, that would be pretty neat and might make them stand out a lot more, thus giving many the incentive to look at them.  It has been months since I last saw DDs.  Part of this is not just because the page is obscured.. but from personal observations, browsers have gotten pretty versatile lately.  Those who are fairly tech-savvy don't type "deviantart.com" in their url, some might go the extra mile and type their handle before it as well.  Meaning that they never ever have to see the home page; they're directed to their profile where they can do all their relevant business and they never see the rest of dA's scope. Even if they didn't do this, if you're on your profile page more than the home page, your browser will automatically remember your profile page before anything else and will give you its url instead if you just type "dev" (and the rest fills out).  I hope this made sense ^^' I personally think this is a valid reason because I'm here not just to browse most of the time..it's to clean out my profile, update things..then I'm gone.  There's no obvious placed incentive on my profile to check out others' works.

I love the header idea; black is a great choice.  Like others have mentioned though, it'd be nice if there was a light version as well.  If you want to go the extra mile, you can also make a green header (with the option of black or white icons and letters) to leave us an option of a "classic" appearance (what can I say, I love green lol).  To balance it out, the option to change our background page colors would be nice as well (light, dark, the pale green we have now, etc.).  Which leads me to my next point.  I really hope profile customization will become more versatile in the future.  We're artists, we like being creative, and part of it is decorating our profile page. It'd be nice if there were more options available..and the ability to change the amount of columns, or their size, or placement, you name it.  It'd help spark our creativity a little more ;) (at least make it core exclusive)

The last bit I wanted to bring up is...the reason I responded so late to this discussion journal lol.  Notifications for these things completely stopped showing up on my page.  And the timeline isn't easily accessible (I have to type the URL from scratch).  So frankly, I wondered what happened to the site, so I finally checked it out. And found this page finally.  It's...I went a lot out of my way to find this, is there any possible way to be notified of these things live?
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plutoniumkitten Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2015  Professional
Somehow I missed this until now... I like the look of this! :D

1. Missing: As far as I can see, everthying important is there. I like that notes are separate from the other notifications, and the dropdown to one's own stuff from the avatar, that's super useful!

2. Menu Modal: Looks perfectly fine to me.

3. Profile Menu: It's definitely useful to have easy access to galleries and favs from there, not so much on one's own profile with the new dropdown menu, but on other people's.
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Ruz18 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
  1. What's Missing: It looks like they got everything that comes to my mind is there. They're doing a good job making the undiscovered to be discovered. Does the group button takes you to all the groups you join in, or does it show you only the groups you joined as contributors or higher?
  2. The Menu Modal: I feel that nothing should be removed. Everything from the navigation system, I believe that this will benefit all deviants by the time it's released for them.
  3. The Profile Menu: Most likely. The folders in my gallery makes it very easy to organize my works as well as the favourites as well. If there is one change that I would like to see is that when a deviant is viewing a subfolder inside a folder, it can go back straight to the main gallery instead of going back to a folder and then to the gallery. Long story short, it could take one click from being in the subfolder to the main gallery.
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Stygma Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
  1. What's missing?
    Are there any key destinations on DeviantArt that are currently hard to find? There something very important missing: A direct access to the gallery! Our main goal is to showcase our art. It makes no sense for me that the icon is such an important menu. Who click on an avatar? For someone new on this site, or just a visitor, the gallery will be invisible! Unless this menu is just for me in my account? We'll we have a different view when browsing someone else's profile?

  2. The Menu Modal:
    Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add? If "Write a journal" is used for the old style journal, then I need a Sta.sh writer button! I hate to have to go through sta.sh to get into sta.sh writer. I love the "Create a Poll" button!

  3. The Profile Menu:
    Do you find it useful to have easy access to your galleries and favourites from this menu? It's kind of OK for myself, but not for my visitors. I want them to see at a first glance that I have a gallery! 
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conniekidd Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
DDs need to be prominent somewhere, and easily found. Otherwise it looks quite sleek and shiny!
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SpyderZT Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
1) I'm going to assume that this will anchor itself to the top while you're navigating the site (Unlike the current top bar that vanishes when you scroll down), or if not by default, you'll have the option for it to do this? If so, then the only thing I've got is, I've always had a hard time understanding why it's so difficult to navigate around the Deviant's Profile that I'm currently looking at. Once you load a Deviation, that Devaint's Profile Link should appear in the top bar beside your own, with many of the same links in their Dropdown (Profile, Gallery, Prints, Favorites, Journals, Etc.) as sort of a 'Currently Looking At'. It's a bit silly that if I want to look into a Deviant more, I need to click their username to get to their main Profile, and THEN I can navigate to the rest of their presence on the site, and it sometimes limits my interactions where I might otherwise engage more. If not this (Which is definitely the ideal) then at the least that deviant's header bar with these links:

Header by SpyderZT  

should always be present, while viewing a journal entry or deviation (Even if you want to 'Slim' it down while viewing something, the point should be that you're able to navigate to any part of a Deviant's Profile whist 'On' that Deviant's Profile). 

2) I do like how easy Favorites and Groups are to get to currently... hopefully this doesn't do away with the Favorites Pop Down, or hide groups on a separate page.

3) Similar to above, if not in the Profile Menu, then on the Top Bar, just the Star Icon (And a Gallery Icon?) is fine. ;P

  Overall, I think the current navigation system doesn't make exploring a Deviant very intuitive, and I'd love to see that change with this redesign. Keep on rocking crew.
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KorruptedCore Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
✖ What's missing? Are there any key destinations on DeviantArt that are currently hard to find?

The first thing I see missing here is the 'manage deviations' section, which might just not be shown here but just in case. Sometimes people want to lock some of their work on private- for personal reasons, or maybe something old you don't want to have to do with anymore and is now taking up most of your notifications, and then the 'put in storage' tool is a lifesaver if we don't want to permanently remove something [because maybe we'd like to put it back some day, or just go back to it ourselves for nostalgic purposes]. Again, it might just be that this tool isn't showing where it is in the current design, but I'd like to remain able to actually find it. Other than that I don't think I'm missing anything. Everything looks really neat!


✖ The Menu Modal: Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add?

Again, the 'manage deviations' tool needs to be there, it's pretty necessary I think. 


✖ The Profile Menu: Do you find it useful to have easy access to your galleries and favourites from this menu?

Yeah, sure! I mean, I don't have any problems with finding those sections the way the site is right now,
but a drop-down menu never hurt anyone as long as the original page will still be there o3o



[ Also, this isn't entirely on-topic, but I love the real-time notification popup there. And from what I'm getting you're planning on keeping the good old notifications page even if you implement the drop-down. If I got that right I'm so grateful for that because I was stressing over losing that to a dropdown menu. Those are very useful for easy access [say, wanting to read your latest note without having to load up the notes page] but without the real page it's pretty shitty to use, 'specially if you get a lot of notifications that you want to keep track of. So yay! AND THE NEW SUBMIT/DROPDOWN IS GREAT TOO with the exception of 'manage deviations'. Can that please be there? ^^' ]
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theneonwalrus Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015  Student General Artist
Wow it looks really sleek and modern! ^__^
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eliyah153 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2015
Can't wait until the new design is there. Also the new profiles. I really like the new design. It looks very functional and stylish. :)
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Anoya Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015   Photographer
  1. What's missing?
    Are there any key destinations on DeviantArt that are currently hard to find?

I'm missing the DDs. I get why you removed the footer, spyed explained this a while ago. I don't get why it hasn't been replaced somewhere else. It's obvious for everyone that the DDs haven't been receiving the same kind of exposure like they were when they were still appearing in the footer. Some DDs these days barely get any views or favorites. Some people don't even appear to be that happy anymore when receiving a DD. It used to be an explosion of views, watches and favorites and now people should be happy if they even get 300 favorites on a DD. It really doesn't seem to be this important or this much of a big deal anymore like it used to be 'back in the day'.

I would also like the Chats & Forums to be more obvious. These are community related, thus should be more obvious. Interaction with deviants should be made easier, not more difficult to find.

Same goes for Critiqueable. I can see the Critiques there, but not Critiqueable. Where did this go?

Just like TheGalleryOfEve I'm missing Random Deviant and Random Deviation. Again, interaction with deviants should be made easier. Same goes for random interactions.

And I'm missing Browse. I don't want to just see Popular or What's Hot. I want to be able to Browse everything, like I can now

      2. The Menu Modal:
          Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add? 

Add the ones that I'm missing above :B
 
     
3. The Profile Menu:
           Do you find it useful to have easy access to your galleries and favourites from this menu?

Yeah, I might. But I would find it more useful if there were more easier ways to be able to interact with the community, like I mentioned above. I'm mainly here for the community and the art of other deviants. I want that to be easier to find than my own gallery or favorites. Why would I rather see my own gallery or favourites than the (new) art of other deviants? I'm here for others, not necessarily for myself.

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TheGalleryOfEve Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Randomzzz!!! :iconlawooplz:
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Anoya Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015   Photographer
I feel like they're hiding every way to interact with other people. Make it all about yourself instead of others. :stare:
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Haru-mon Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015  Student Digital Artist
  1. What's missing?
    Are there any key destinations on DeviantArt that are currently hard to find? 

    Seeing other comments I must say that I don't find the DD's. 

  2. The Menu Modal:
    Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add? 

    Maybe the DD's  need to be listed inside the Menu on the Deviantart category.
    Forums and Chat too because it's not like a resource but a very big part of the Deviantart community so I think that's where they should be.

  3. The Profile Menu:
    Do you find it useful to have easy access to your galleries and favourites from this menu?

    YES! 
    Actually I'm very lazy and having to click my profile and then my gallery was really a waste of time.


    Now...
    I don't know if the Navigation Bar should be black... I don't know. It's like getting rid of the main color who represents deviantart. It would look very stylized and flat but... I don't really know if it's a good idea to make it black.
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FallenZephyrArt Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
Honestly, the design is garbage; it hurts my eyes to even look at. The icons are unconventional and do not instill "watch" or "explore" if I took the words away. It looks like someone thought they'd be "cool" icons (hint: they aren't).

The colours have too much contrast. White, almost black, and bright green? Ugh, no. AND PLEASE keep menus splintered and customizable for people.
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Immerot Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015
I assume that "Categories" is another name for "Browse"? I hope that you won't remove the "Browse" entirely.
Also I don't understand the meaning of "Popular" section - isn't it the analogue of "What' Hot"?
Currently scheme contains too many sections there, actually.
As before the Sta.sh is hard to find.
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ManMadeOfGold Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I will be vocal about the following things, in order of importance (most important first):

1. Design Philosophy: Do not follow the mobile app design for your icons. The angular hipster glasses for "watch" and the rocket for "explore" are not things I identify with ideologically. It makes sense in in how the connote with the words they represent, but it just doesn't bring to mind what I'm sure you expect it to.

Additionally, the "chipped off block" or the "squares with edges sawed off" look for the icons creates a visually jarring asymmetry, mostly in how the bottom right sawed-off corners are juxtaposed next to right-angled corners, such as on the far right navbar. It's a visual consistency that could be much better refined.

I personally think that the rounded, outlined menu icons under "submit" are far more pleasant. However, the brightness of the "submit" menu does poorly against the dark site, and the "speech bubble" type dropdown from the menu feels like it takes away the connection to the menu item that was clicked in order to access it. I suggest a flyout that seems to come from below the navbar.

2. Deviantart's Purpose: I think the emphasis on creation and consumption distracts from the integral use of deviantart as a social platform, one through which many connections and friendships form. Why treat "watching" as the purest form of the word? "Interacting" is far more important than just "watching". Please keep that in mind.

3. Navigation: The favorites drawer/button on the current navbar is useful. Please leave it be.

The "online friends list" is also useful, and it would be appreciated if it was kept in place.


Thanks for reading, and I hope these ideas are specifically and individually discussed and accounted for.
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JenFruzz Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm actually looking forward to these changes, most of all the color scheme change. After reading through this, I'm still processing a bit... There's a lot of information here!

But, I can answer one of the question:
The Menu Modal: Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add? 
:bulletpink: I would like to see a greater emphasis on the Community in the Menu. A heading for "Community" would include links to Browsing Art, Browsing Daily Deviations, the Forums, the Chats, and Groups. Other relevant community links too... But those stick out most to me. Would be good to see Forums & Chats not just listed at the end of a "Resources" menu :nod:
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FantasyLost Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015   Digital Artist
Nav Bar Design/Color:  
I much prefer the light-hearted design and color of the current Nav Bar. I want more color in my life, not more darkness. “It will appear on every page of the site and needs to be consistent with how it works and looks. It will sit on top (literally) of many different styles of page across the site . . .”  Good grief, a permanent black/orange/green Halloween-themed navigation bar to have to look at constantly, like an ugly vulture squatting on top of every DA page waiting for something to die down below.

My Favorite Nav Bar/Menu:  
The optional, customizable, colorful, DA-provided Stick Menu that attaches itself to the DA Nav Bar, without a doubt. I’ve added the features to it that I personally use on a frequent basis, so I need only click once from just about anywhere on the DA site to move from one of my favorite locations to another. No searching every day through every feature known to man on endless drop-down, difficult-to-read, hidden menus. I just wish DA would add even more DA features to the Stick Menu to choose from.

What’s Missing:  
Favorites “star” button on proposed DA Nav Bar - What happened to the Favorites “star” button on the new Nav Bar (the icon that appears on the far right side of the current bar), the button I use every day to quickly add new Favorites to my various Collections? 
Three separate icons for in-comings - I much prefer separate counts on separate icons to appear on the Nav Bar for incoming deviations and messages, instead of one-icon-fits-all.
A way to change the color theme on the Nav Bar and its Menus - Even Photoshop allows users to adjust the color of its interface in descending levels from total black to light grey to accommodate those of us who find white or light grey text on black almost impossible to visually deal with.

The Menu Modal - Add:
Link to “Stock” in Resources - The stock that is provided by members on the DA site is invaluable. It definitely deserves a place on the Resources Menu.
Link to “Premium Content” in Resources - But then, again, that would first require an organized way to actually find Premium Content on DA, which currently does not exist.

The Profile Menu:
Do I want easy access to my gallery and faves from my Profile Page? Of course. Do I always return to my Profile Page from other locations on DA in order to get to my gallery and faves? No, of course not. Instead, I use my Stick Menu that’s attached to my DA Nav Bar for one-click access to my gallery and faves without having to return to my Profile Page, and to every other place I normally go on DA.

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UszatyArbuz Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015   Digital Artist
Are we going to be able to customize the Profile Menu list or the stuff here are added permanently? : |

Of course nobody will answer to me as always...
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iingo Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I like the way the navigation bar is now...AGAIN MUST I REPEAT MYSELF...I like the color emotes. They're fun and bright...but you guys won't listen to me anyway...NAVIGATION BAR IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BORING....GODDANGIT... And it is kinda dark. 

I hope somebody creates a CSS Code to go back to the original... I'm just too much of a nostalgiatard...im sorry...this is probably why I'm drifting away from this site. You're taking away what made this site ORIGINAL. 

The new menu at the bottom is okay. Hey here's an idea...BRING BACK THE DDS AT THE BOTTOM....I swear DDs are being neglected by you. We need the footer back. That again is what made dA great back then! 

I still like the navigation scroll down box at least. 

I honestly like dA the way it is still....I know I must get with the time, but truck that. I like originality and what we have now...
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DeviBrigard Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
  1. What's missing? Are there any key destinations on DeviantArt that are currently hard to find?
    SSL for the header's login form :stare:
    I find the correspondence page quite useful, but few seem to know it exists. It does not seem to appear in the new menu mockups.
    Then there's the random buttons, critiques, portfolio, wallpaper, and what ever happened to that commissions portal?
  2. The Menu Modal: Of the items listed here, are there any that we should remove or add? 
    This is my favourite menu :la: Those I listed above probably should go here.
  3. The Profile Menu: Do you find it useful to have easy access to your galleries and favourites from this menu?
    YES. It was the main thing that bothered me with the current menu. On a slow connection, it is quite frustrating to have to wait for the profile page to load before being able to navigate to these pages (if the profile page will even load at all). Also, quite often when I am making a submission, I'll want to go to my gallery and get some information from another deviation, so a gallery link would speed up this process a bit.
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iwaizumihajimeme Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
  1. What's missing?
    DD's.....honestly...
  2. The Menu Modal:
    Ugh...it's just really huge. And I tend to not work well with huge menus.
  3. The Profile Menu:
    It looks fine, but I'd like to be able to access my groups from there, like it is now...
other things-
keep the notifications menu split into notification types, please ;v;
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Ahkward Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
1. DD's are something I wish you guys would STOP hiding. ono I have my toolbar menu at the top customized so that it's easy to find. I wish you would find a way to show that off instead of hiding it.

2. Please keep my menu splintered. It helps me know which messages to check each day since I get so many instead of having to sift through all of them.

3. I like the idea other deviants here have mentioned with a "socialize" tab. I know a lot of people who don't know how to find groups, chat or forums. A lot of people don't even know da HAS forums. So by adding a tab for those sorts of things would be better for those who are new or don't know about those features to discover them and have access to them better.

4. Thinking about it, I'd like you to maybe keep that customizable menu and my gallery/favorites are already to access under my profile tab.
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HimitsuUK Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015   Photographer
Make the forums and chats easier to find. I like it though.
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TheGalleryOfEve Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Ohh yes :omg: The "Random Deviant" and "Random Deviation" have been pretty useful to me, not so much the "Random Group", since groups are something that I choose in different ways, but I've come across many amazing artists and friends, thanks to the "Randomness" :eyes:
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CharmanDrigo Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Student General Artist
I like these ideas, but we need to have better visibility for some kinda immportant sections for some like the groups, are you planning to put all the sections sprcific icons like those of the upcoming submit tab? That will make easier to understand the menu.

Also, a little out of context here but, sta.sh has a layout similar to the actual old DA layout, will sta.sh be visually updated as well?

And since DA changed the behaviour of the watch button, now I think this should change to allow custimize the watch button, like, automatically watch scraps but not watch collections, because since the watch does not pop out options unless is clicked again, it's pretty tedious to do it to watch people scraps, unwatch collections and not auto add to friends.

speaking of which, the friends section is something that DA should focus on, like, adding stuff like easy note sending or a watch feed of friends only
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RTNightmare Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I liked in the beginning when Daily Deviations were visible at the bottom. That would make setting DDs and just having them still going on on DA more reasonable.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Please stop with the infinite scrolling; make it only optional since it's making browsing on this site progressively harder.

Also, I agree with DiseasedDoll on making a "socialize" category more prominent.
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GMCollins Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
Groups, take them out of widget and have them as a dropdown, we know this is possible as if you are an admin it is accessible from the navbar so expand on that.
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slowdog294 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
Make the dropdowns the same color as the bar so that we are not blinded when we click to drop them down.

I think this might be better than the older version most deviants are currently using.
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1 The timeline is something hard to find, if you plan to continue to use it, perhaps it would be good to have it. The suggestion "forum" with its specific design would be better with a specific area rather than the present forum place.

I no more see random deviant, deviation and groups. Portfolio seems to have also disappeared.

I use the custom menu with link to my gallery and fav, I really need something to continue to have a fast access to them.

In general I like your dark colour menu =)
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Scorpidilion Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Photographer
what about a section on the profile pages for DD's where all the DD's are collected from the deviant and a special DD sign or badge on the profile page so everyone can see u got a DD and it changes when you get more DD's
the badge should be next to the deviants avatar or arround the avatar or on a separate location
maybe this brings also a bit more excitement back to get a DD
now no one can see on your profile u got a DD except the deviant makes a gallery for it
would be a very nice addition to the new profile pages
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esglabs Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
1. The Timeline, if that's something you're going to keep.  I don't find any of the user-oriented things are hard to find, though I use a pretty small subset of them.

2. See #1.  Otherwise, I don't see myself ever using the giant Menu.

3. No, as I almost never go to those pages.  Watch Notifications and Search are my two important destinations.
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B0nkers Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
This is great news! Surprisingly, I am looking forward to this new feature. It will make navigation so much more easier. I also like the icons added next to each section. A small edition but a really powerful one.

Moreover, as others have pointed out I'd really like the Daily Deviations to be added to the menu bar. :excited:
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sakpalamey Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am neophobic. What is wrong with the way it is?
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Astralseed Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional General Artist

Moving Earnings makes sense because it's really not ideal where it's currently at, but it will take me some time to get used to that move for sure because I'm so familiar with it being under the shop section.  None the less, I welcome the change since it does make more sense that way.

I'm also curious if the "write a journal" link will take us to stash writer or if it will simply replace the regular way to write journals?  Not really a big deal since the stash link is in the same column, but it would be nice to know which one it takes us to so we can click on the appropriate one when we go to write our journals. 
:thumbsup: on adding a quick link to write a status update though, hopefully that will bring more people to the watch feed! 

I am really disappointed to see how DDs will get hidden all over again.  Currently I have my nav bar customized to include the DD link so I use that each morning to check out the DDs.  Without it I have to tinker around to get to them which makes me unhappy and a little peeved.  Why can't DDs have their own button that is highlighted directly in the menu? Just slap it up there by the watch and explore buttons  and bring them back into the spotlight where they belong and all ;)

I don't have a need for easier access to my gallery and or favorites.  I don't mind accessing them from my profile page since I don't go to them all too often anyway.  


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Patt-Ytto Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
If you add inifinite scrolling, PLEASE make it optional. I BEG of you.
Infinte scrolling has been the bane of every website i visit, where you can't scroll down too far or the ram consumption goes up so much that the browser crashes. It is essentially a way to limit browsing for people.
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lethe-gray Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Infinite scrolling is the devil and should be burned. Do not do this.

Light makes right; dark backgrounds make eyes hurt.

FOOTERS. Just. Footers. I'll continue to force the site to be tweaked by a Stylish config, and wouldn't it be nice to just not have to do that? I already have to in order to keep my buttons all in one damn place.

No, I'm not a beta tester. But apparently that won't make a scrap of difference in the long run, since you guys don't actually listen to the commentary and critique you get from them anyway.
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astro-shark Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll have a look at the new Nav when I'm on my laptop.

But the hardest thing I THINK people have difficulty is finding the "Block Users" section under settings.
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DiseasedDoll Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I like the way it looks and think that, in general, this is a pretty good idea. What I'm missing are all the social parts of the site. The social aspect is what makes this site different from other art sites.
  1. What's missing?
    Forums and chat are two features that took me years to find. The Daily Deviations are way less visible than they used to be before as well.
  2. The Menu Modal:
    I'd add a "socialize" category where you include groups, chat and forums.
  3. The Profile Menu:
    Nice. :nod:
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KatasiHK Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Professional Interface Designer
The Menu Modal:
I'd add a "socialize" category where you include groups, chat and forums.

Thanks for the feedback. I like this category idea ;)
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DiseasedDoll Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
=) Thanks for taking your members' feedback into consideration. 
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KatasiHK Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Professional Interface Designer
That's what I'm here for ;)
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DiseasedDoll Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
You seem to be a new employee? Looks like they made a good choice in hiring you. :nod:
One of the main criticisms I hear on here is that the members don't feel like the staff listens to the community.  
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KatasiHK Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Professional Interface Designer
Yes, approaching my on year mark! That really makes my day to hear that :) We try our best.
Seems like you're pretty new to the community as well. What brought you to DA?
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